Fifth Interview
Most investigators, prior to interrogating a person, particularly a person who was involved in a triple homicide, would want to know as much about that person as possible, including his background, the results of the investigation to date, his associations, his previous stories, and to be as fully briefed as possible. What did and what didn't Detective Myron Wilkerson know prior to interrogating Boney?
Incredibly enough, Wilkerson claimed, under oath in his deposition, that he was unaware that Boney had already provided a statement to the police. He claimed that he was unaware that Boney had previously invoked his right to a lawyer. He didn't know that Boney had been convicted of 11 previous felonies, ten of which were for violent crimes involving women, and he said that he didn't know that Boney had taken and failed a stipulated polygraph.
Of an additional lesser note, Wilkerson also "assumed" that Boney had played basketball with fellow ISP officer Wilbur Turner, although that wasn't accurate; the two never played basketball together.
The point being is if you're asking someone to conduct a very critical interrogation of a triple murder suspect, that person should have a solid foundation on which to ask the appropriate and hard questions expected in such an interrogation. From that standpoint, Wilkerson through his own admissions, was unaware about a lot of critical information needed to conduct a thorough and comprehensive interview.
However, if the purpose of the police interview is to get, as Barbara Boney later said, a "conspiracy note," perhaps you don't need a lot of information. Through the very nature of Wilkerson's comments and questions, it was clear that his agenda was to get Boney to incriminate David Camm.
The interview of Boney by Detective Wilkerson began at 3:48PM. Wilkerson was a veteran narcotics officer and his interview tactics with Boney were direct and to the point. It was Wilkerson who uttered most of the words that were initially exchanged between himself and Boney. Indeed, there were well over 1,000 words first spoken during the initial part of the interview and Boney uttered less than three dozen of those words. Clearly, Wilkerson was trying to impress Boney:
Wilkerson: "Charles, what I want to do right now I want to talk about what we talked about a short while ago okay. And all we talked about was the, it's time to cleanse this situation, okay. It's ugly, it's hurt a lot of people, you understand? Your mother is hanging in limbo, you understand…to see the magnitude of involvement. Is that honest enough? All right your sister has been her, she's hurt but she'll be okay. You understand? I've talked to them both. All right. I think the way I want to start this Charles I want you to talk to me. You understand? And then we go into more specifics after the initial conversation. Are you comfortable now?
Boney: "Honestly no."
Wilkerson then laid it on the line for Boney:
"My motive right now whether you want to believe it or not you need to quit being so damn stubborn…is to keep you alive. I can be a man and look you in your eyes and tell you that's what I'm intending to do. You understand Charles? I've told you off the record but now I'll tell you on the record you're gonna have a hell of a time getting around with what's already there. Your best scenario is to be a witness. No matter what it is Charles it needs to be put to rest. No matter how deep it is, no matter who's involved in it or who is not involved in it. You need this, this is ridiculous you need to tell the truth. No more games, I told you downstairs no more diversions okay. The attorney is no longer a diversion I mean we're legal you understand, there is nothing here that it's your decision to move forward. There's nothing I can add to or remove from your statement it's on the record. You understand, I've laid every bit of this out Charles. Okay. I'm reaching a little tired okay, because what I really think is going on here Charles is, you're stubborn, you're scared and you're an opportunist. Know what I mean by that Charles? Any opportunity you get to not talk about this you're gonna use and I think its time to quit the shit. You understand? You need to let go. Do you know David Camm?"
Wilkerson certainly cut to the chase. After being repeatedly told by the previous investigators and by his sister that he was facing the death penalty and having this reinforced by Wilkerson, whose motive was "to keep you alive," his "best scenario is to be a witness." Boney knew that he had to give more details of his alleged relationship with Dave and he was ready to do just that. What specifics did he give Wilkerson and how credible was this "opportunist?"
After Boney said that he did know Camm, Wilkerson then followed up with these comments, "Okay, so you met him in July of 2000. You're not gonna regret this okay. In the end I'm gonna tell you why. You understand? Don't you stop on me, don't play no more games Charles okay. You understand?"
One would think it would be clear to anyone that Boney was starting to go in the direction that Wilkerson wanted and he reinforced this direction.
Boney then provided the following claims about himself and Camm:
- They initially met playing full-court basketball in July (2000) with 10 players plus "any amount of people that were waiting on the sidelines..."
- As to the identities of other players or those waiting on the sidelines, Boney said, "I couldn't think of anyone."
- Boney said he was just out of prison and Camm said he was a former police officer.
- They spent less than 10 minutes talking with one another that first time.
- They next met by chance at the Better Way Food Mart, next to Karem's Meats, about two months after they played basketball.
- They talked in front of the front door of the Better Way.
- Camm was driving the black Bronco when he arrived.
- Camm acted "hesitant" while looking at Karem's meats.
- Boney told Camm that he was working at Anderson Woods.
- They talked about playing another game of basketball.
- Camm asked him what he did to get locked up.
- Boney told Camm that he had been locked up for armed robbery.
Boney then said of the conversation, "Then it led into the…so what are you doing now. How are you surviving? You know what steps have you taken to stay free. What are you doing, what have you ever done, do you have any trade skills. What oth….what types of things did you, at one point in time do in order to make money? These are, these are questions that he was asking me."
Boney then said that he told Camm that he had sold drugs and that he had done robberies to supplement his income. And why was Camm asking Boney about all of this, and in less than 10 minutes? According to Boney, "I'm thinking maybe he's just asking me so that he could maybe use me as a….. I could use him as a reference." That makes sense, right? A former police officer would be a reference for a guy who committed armed robberies and was a drug dealer after playing a game of basketball and speaking with him for mere minutes.
Camm then asked Boney if he had ever sold weapons and Boney, the guy who hated cops, told the ex-cop that he had a "connection" to get a gun. Camm then asked Boney to help get him a gun.
(Note: During Boney's final interview with Gilbert and Kessinger, which occurred directly after his interview with Wilkerson, he uttered the following words, "Convicts don't go to the police for anything…especially one fresh out of jail. You never go to the police…for anything." This is yet but another example of how contradictory Boney's stories played out. He would never speak with a cop but yet he trusted this former cop enough to get a gun for him.)
Boney continued, "I told him I needed to make at least five hundred dollars. He says that that wasn't in his budget. So I told him that what about two fifty, I just kept going down. So what about two fifty, so two fifty was something that he felt like he could come up with."
Boney's story was that when he and Camm met in front of Better Way that they talked about:
- Boney's work
- the previous basketball game
- Boney's desire to play another game
- Camm's question of Boney as to what he did to get locked up
- Boney's answer about why he was imprisoned
- what Boney was currently doing
- what steps Boney had taken to stay free
- if he had any trade skills
- what he was doing to make money
- Boney's response that he had sold drugs and done robberies to supplement his income
- the question of Boney if had ever sold any weapons,
- Boney connection to get a gun
- Boney quoting Camm a price for the gun
- they haggled over the price of the gun
- they agreed to meet with one another a short time later.
That's a lot of talking in less than ten minutes and when David Camm was, according to Boney, acting "hesitant," presumably because he didn't want to be seen by anyone from Karem's.
After Boney claimed that he went to Louisville (and met the enigmatic Larry Gerkin), Boney then "met David Camm at approximately 6:00 o'clock at the Floyd Memorial Hospital in the back parking lot."
Wilkerson then continued, "When was the next time you encountered him? Tell me about that encounter first, did you just meet there and hand, you handed him the gun you handed him the money?"
The following dialogue (as transcribed by the ISP) then occurred:
Boney: No I didn't, it didn't happen exactly like that.
Wilkerson: How did it happen?
Boney: First and foremost you know regardless of what I said in interviews and stuff like that to cover myself and to protect myself I was afraid of the gun charge. Cause I knew and have known for over 4 years now that he did it…specifically, David Camm.
Wilkerson: How did you know that?
Boney: Actually unless you there to see you wouldn't know for sure and that's one thing that I can't say, but
Wilkerson: That's bullshit Charles, that's why we here. That's the come the Jesus, that's the saving element. Charles don't fuck with me. Okay, I'm getting tired okay. You have got to let it go. You had to be there Charles. Scientifically you was there. I'm gonna tell you as a man again, if they take you to trial now they don't need you to say a word. Do you understand? What don't you see? You was there when that family was killed Charles. And you've got to bring it clean. I know this Charles. Saturday Charles I didn't believe it, I told that didn't I? I came down here because I seen a press conference in the City-County Building, front building. I meddling Charles okay. I'm like I said this is Barbara's son, you understand Charles. I talked to Barbara she don't believe it Charles. I at this point, until I went in that office up there I knew then we got a problem. You understand? That's not where you want to be. Do you understand? I'm gonna ask you a very important question, and I'd rather you tell me but see your trying to button up and your trying to detach yourself from that same. Goddamit Charles your there. Do you understand me? You are at that scene. I don't care what nobody else has told you Charles, you are at that scene. They can put you at that scene. You understand Charles? You're here in cooperative effort to tell the truth, that don't mean to tell what you want to tell. I've got to go out of here and be able to say he's came clean. And I don't think nobody's gonna piss backwards on me Charles. Have I made that clear? I know they're not Charles. And I got surprises ahead of me cause I don't exactly what all you did. You got to tell it. Everybody can speculate. But you know. Stop playing games with your grave okay. Do you understand Charles? You can't afford that at this point in the game. Charles, let me tell you again you are at that scene. Your no dummy. You know there's at least three to five elements that you can think of that so far now the investigation is not concluded that's gonna put you at that scene Charles. Let me ask you something Charles, if David Camm had this opportunity to come clean what do you think he's gonna do? He's gonna hang your black ass. Do you understand me Charles? I have no shame of anything I'm saying I'm telling you the truth. If he gets put in a corner and all of a sudden oh….they got me and they got him. I'm gonna tell you right now, with your statements against yourself and what you say they've got em. Do you understand? If he's put in a corner and he realizes they're gonna fry me he's gonna tell on your ass. And guess what, if you ain't careful you gonna be the only one at that fucking scene. Do you understand me Charles? Is that what you want to try and play with? Do you want somebody to assume that Charles Boney must have been there? Do you understand? No games Charles? The buck stops here, I'm telling you now. When I leave here today, okay, I'm either gonna say Charles Boney done the right thing or fuck Charles Boney, I'm gonna sleep and sleep good tonight because I tried, okay. Do you understand me would you please acknowledge.
Boney: Yes.
Wilkerson: You understand what I'm telling you? You not, your not in a position to play any games and tell me what you want to tell me. You know David Camm, you got him the gun, you know you got him the gun but then you get here that's what I'm holding inside. I know he did. You know he did Charles, cause you was there. I will tell you man to man I swear I'm not coming back Charles. You understand? This is it. When I walk out of here today I'm going back to what I do best working dope. You with me? I'm here because I know your mother and I met your sister and we share family members. You second cousin happens to be my sweet aunt. You understand? And I know Johnny (Boney's uncle who sold him the dark blue Cadillac) very well. Let me tell you, ever tell you about guy living down at Evansville from up here? That was me Charles. Yeah, the truth…little slimmer back then okay. Quit playing games with me Charles it upsets me okay. All right and I'm gonna stay on an even keel with you. I want you to tell me like it is, now how do you know David Camm killed his family?
Pause
Wilkerson: It is doing you absolutely no good not to release it. Charles will you acknowledge me please. How do you know David Camm killed his family?
After continuing to plead with Boney, Wilkerson and Boney then engaged in the following conversation:
Wilkerson: Did you see anybody killed Charles? Did you see anybody killed Charles? You need to answer the question. Why, are you holding this Charles? What do you have to gain? Have you waived that equation? What the fuck do you have to gain holding on? Your done. I told you in no uncertain terms the goal is save one's life Charles. You understand? Don't give it a chance for him to be the one giving it up and you the one slaying people. You don't believe that can happen Charles?
Boney: There's a lot of possibilities but the thing is...
Wilkerson: One's ass is of utmost importance to em Charles. One's ass is of utmost importance to em Charles. You have a potential for a death penalty situation. Currently he's not there Charles it's backwards. Did you see David Camm shoot anyone?
Many people would agree that the comments by Wilkerson are chilling. It is very clear that Wilkerson was trying to save the son of a relative from the "grave." It is also clear that Wilkerson had to tell someone who wouldn't "piss backwards" and charge Boney with the death penalty if he came clean, meaning he needed to provide an eyewitness account of David Camm killing his family. Wilkerson later admitted that Henderson was outside the interview room.
After his continued pleading with Boney, Wilkerson then made the following comments, "What was your part Charles? Charles I got to tell you something, the night of these homicides the car that you bought from your uncle I truthfully believe was the one that was seen in that area. I didn't believe that at first Charles…none of it…Saturday. Why was you there that night Charles?" Wilkerson continued, "And I think your mother has told you don't let her go to her grave with you on death row, didn't she?"
(Note: Wilkerson believed that Boney's car was seen in the area. Wilkerson perhaps wasn't aware of the time of the sightings, however. Two witnesses saw the look-a-like car around 3:00PM and one saw a person in the front passenger seat. Remember that Boney had already solicited his girlfriend's brother to help him as a getaway driver with a robbery that Boney, who had a gun, had planned in Indiana. In order to plan a robbery, one must be aware of and scope out the intended target. At the time of the vehicle sightings on Lockhart Road, Dave Camm was elsewhere, engaged in company business.)
Wilkerson wasn't finished, "This shit needs to end, okay. You need to quit being such a stubborn son-of-a-bitch and say I need to cleanse myself of this shit so I can go to sleep. So I can rest easy, do you understand? The burden will be off of you. You understand?"
Wilkerson continued his pleading with Boney and offered this, "It's time to put it to rest. Charles why was you at the Camm residence the night the children were killed and their mother? Why was you there? What was your role, please?"
Boney absolutely saw the light and the fact that there was only one way for him to minimize his role and that was to further incriminate David Camm when he answered, "The reason why I was there was to bring him the gun."
The following dialogue then occurred:
Wilkerson: Did you witness the pulling of the trigger of them poor defenseless children, one of which was running away being killed?
Boney: David Camm's intention was to kill not only his family but me too.
Wilkerson: How do you know that?
Boney: Because when he aimed the gun at me….it jammed. That gave me enough time to get into my car and drive.
Wilkerson: And you ran off? Did you see David Camm kill his wife?
Boney: I only heard the shots.
Wilkerson: Where was you at?
Boney: After I had given him the…the weapon, keeping in mind timeframes and all that stuff, after I had given him the weapon…there was uh…I don't know maybe three minutes had passed and his family had came home.
Wilkerson: So you and him was the on the property….and his family arrives?
Boney: His, his uh…his family had came home only after he and I were together there.
Wilkerson: At his residence?
Boney: Yes.
Wilkerson: The night that he killed em?
Boney: But I don't, I don't remember exactly what time.
Wilkerson: Were him and his wife arguing or something?
Boney: I don't remember.
Wilkerson: Did he tell you? Don't start claming up starting to think lie, okay. You need to tell the truth. When you went to that residence did you know he was intending on killing his family?
Boney: No.
Wilkerson: At what point did shit go bad?
Boney: When I heard….I know…I heard someone say no….and that was his wife.
Wilkerson: Okay.
Boney: And then heard a pop.
Wilkerson: Where was that, where was that at, when did that occur at?
Boney: I was parked….in the driveway of the home, not towards the back of the garage.
Boney's statement was jumping all over the place. One of the first things he claimed, of course, was that Boney was going to be a victim of David Camm. That's certainly in keeping with his theme that he, too, was but a mere victim.
Wilkerson then gave Boney what some would consider a tutorial, "You ain't no dummy. It's gonna take more than your statements to close the coffin. Do you understand? It's gonna take all of it and then somebody's got go do some legwork, do you understand that? They've got to be able to say Charles Boney told us this but this is how we know it's true." Wilkerson was talking about the need to have Boney's assertions corroborated in order to "close the coffin" (on Camm).
Wilkerson then asked Boney who and what could verify his claim that he and Camm had met. How about the basketball players or those on the sideline? Uh, no, he couldn't remember any names. He also didn't know of anyone who saw them at Better Way. There would be no phone records because he never had any telephone conversations with Camm and he never met him for dinner. Trying to get witnesses who could verify Boney's claims were going nowhere so Wilkerson went back to the crime scene.
Wilkerson asked Boney when he first went to the Camm residence and Boney said it was after meeting at the Better Way (this was the fourth rendition; the first was they only met at the Better Way; the second was that they later met at the hospital parking lot; the third, scribbled out portion of his statement was that they met at the Target parking lot rather than at the hospital; and this last story was that they then went to Camm's residence). Boney claimed that it was around the 15th of September and that he followed Camm from Better Way but he couldn't recall what type of vehicle Camm was driving.
Once at Camm's residence, they talked about the gun (which Boney claimed that he already had in his possession, thus nullifying his story about leaving Camm, getting the gun from Larry Gerkin, and then re-meeting with Camm) and haggled over the price in Camm's driveway. After about 15 minutes, Boney left the house.
One might ask why Camm would have Boney follow him to his house in order to haggle over the price of a gun when that could have occurred anywhere. There was no explanation by Boney even though Wilkerson later said that didn't make any sense.
It was only later that week that Boney claimed that he met with Gerkin and purchased the gun, for less than $100, from a selection of guns that Gerkin had displayed in the trunk of his car. He also told Wilkerson of the neighborhood where Gerkin lived in Louisville, but as noted previously, Gerkin not only hasn't been found but he, if he even exists, has never been identified.
Boney then claimed that he took the gun, contained in a plastic bag, and transferred it to his sweatshirt because the bag had his fingerprints as well as those of Gerkin's. Wilkerson wanted to know if the gun had oil on it (and hence the oil would have gotten on the sweatshirt) and Boney took the hint and said that he imagined that it did because "all the weapons that he had in his…trunk were freshly oiled." That's good, because if you're going to buy a gun from your local street corner gun entrepreneur, it's always good to make the purchase from someone who maintains his inventory. Boney didn't say if Mr. Gerkin gave him any type of warranty for the gun, however.
How was Boney going to contact Camm in order to make the transaction? The following dialogue would confuse most people:
Wilkerson: So, did he make contact with you on a later day?
Boney: I didn't know any of his contact numbers.
Wilkerson: Uh-huh.
Boney: ...and there was just no way for me to prove it. You know...how he would have contacted me.
Wilkerson: Okay.
Boney: And he and I did agree that we would meet on a certain day.
Wilkerson: Uh-huh…What was that certain day?
Boney: That particular day we would be sometime towards the end of the week, and we didn't know exactly what day it would be, but it ended up being on that Thursday.
Does that make sense? They didn't know "exactly what day it would be, but it ended up being on that Thursday." How about where they were to meet? Why, according to Boney, it was going to be at the Better Way. The Better Way, next to Karem's Meats which was owned by Camm's sister-in-law and where Camm was acting "hesitant" in their first meeting.
Wilkerson was also having a hard time with those responses:
Wilkerson: So….that's not good enough, how did you know what time to meet him at the Better Way?
Boney: Didn't uh...specifically, that's one thing that puzzles me.
Wilkerson: What puzzles you?
Boney: I don't remember how we chose a time or how we came about meeting on that particular day, I don't remember. I honestly don't remember.
One translation of that last response would be, "I'm having a difficult time coming up, at least on the spur of the moment, with a lie that you might believe."
And what happened at the Better Way? Why, Boney and Camm then made the money/gun transaction. That was the first time that Camm had seen the .380 and according to Boney, he liked what he saw. Boney didn't say if he showed the gun to any passersby who would have liked to have seen the oiled and glistening gun in the cradle of the sweatshirt prior to selling it to Camm.
After purchasing the gun from Boney, Camm then made another request of Boney to get him another gun. He then asked Boney to follow him, yet again, to his residence where Boney waited outside while Dave went inside. During those few minutes while he was waiting, Boney claimed that the black Bronco drove up the driveway and parked in the garage.
After the Bronco parked in the garage, Boney claimed that Kim saw him and, "I think I remember her saying who's he, referring to me." After a little bit of "chatter" Boney said he heard someone say "No" and then heard a pop and then another pop which he knew to be gunshots.
When asked if he heard the children say anything:
Boney: I heard um…that's when I think I would have heard Bradley.
Wilkerson: What does Bradley say?
Boney: He didn't say anything, it was the sound he made.
Wilkerson: Which was?
Boney: I recall him saying Daddy.
Boney didn't hear Bradley say anything but recalled him saying "Daddy." One can imagine Boney's mind racing as he's trying to do several things at once, but primarily trying to minimize his involvement while giving the police a story about David Camm.
Boney then claimed that he went to the garage and asked Camm, who had exited the garage, "What the fuck?" It was then that Camm pointed the gun at him, but fortunately for Boney, the gun jammed.
And what did Camm do next? According to Boney, he "tried to play it off" although he didn't say how he was trying to "play if off." He also claimed that he, Boney, had walked into the garage and was going to try and get the gun away from Camm who then suddenly ran into the house. David Camm, a 10 year ISP veteran and former SWAT member apparently did not remember the jammed gun drill which would have taken mere seconds to handle.
What about Boney, what did he do? He saw Kim laying on the concrete with her white pants still on; he then looked in the Bronco and saw both kids, Jill still in her seatbelt and Brad slumped over. He then claimed that "shortly after he (Camm) had um…went into the house and he came back out I was gone. I had already got into my vehicle and left." Boney didn't explain how he knew that Camm came back out of the house and failed to mention if he still had the gun or if he said anything.
Boney then drove off to New Albany where he drove around. He then recalled, however, that he looked into his rear view mirror as he was leaving the Camm driveway and saw "another female…. that had pulled into that driveway." In order to get to the Camm house, one must use the same gravel road as one exiting and therefore the vehicle, which looked like a "state issue" vehicle, would have had to have driven past Boney to get to the driveway. He also surmised that the vehicle was possibly that of a detective because he didn't see any red lights.
(Note: Boney was clearly trying to implicate Shelly Romero, one of Dave Camm's fellow troopers who was still viewed as a suspect by the ISP even though she was with friends, eating a late dinner, 20 miles from the Camm residence at the time of the crimes. Romero was subsequently treated in a harsh manner by some of her fellow Troopers and eventually submitted to a polygraph examination in February, 2005 regarding any involvement that she might have had in the killings. She showed absolutely no deception whatsoever on that polygraph and was eventually eliminated as a suspect. One must ask the question if her name was ever mentioned to Boney during any breaks in any of the interviews or interrogations or at other times when no reports were written about his contacts with the investigators.)
At this stage in the interrogation, Wilkerson again got on his soap box, "You're leaving a lot of holes Charles… You are leaving something out Charles. And I think what you're leaving out is so significant to where you think that's gonna end all communication, and it's not. It might be exactly what the fuck I need."
Okay, what did Wilkerson need? "There was an agreement other than the gun that night Charles…between you and David. I can't say it Charles, I need to know the facts." Why was Wilkerson needing to have Boney come up with an agreement between him and Camm? The simple answer lies in the definition of a criminal conspiracy which is:
A "person conspires to commit a felony when, with intent to commit the felony, he agrees with another person to commit the felony."
Boney wasn't budging, however, but did come up with quite another story which dovetailed with what he had said on two previous occasions:
Wilkerson: Darnell Boney has some criminal involvement in that residence and on that night in September. Do you understand? You know who came in that driveway and that is real important to me. Why are you protecting them? My God are they to get away with fucking murder?
Boney: I don't know...I'm just saying I know it was a female. I don't know who she was.
Wilkerson was becoming as exasperated as did Gilbert and Kessinger three days before:
Wilkerson: You giving me nothing to corroborate what your saying. Nothing…For some reason we pulled in the driveway, ole Dave flipped the script and he went inside the garage and killed his family. He tried to kill me but the gun locked up, I pulled out of the driveway some bitch come in the yard and she might have been the police. You understand? A lot of holes buddy…Charles you leaving a lot of holes...You followed a man from Better Way up a hilly pike, across 150, you got on the interstate you went across 62, you went up past Oaks Road and you don't know what he was driving…Or was the road he went by when he went over and capped all three of em? You see my point? You see how dangerous your playing? You've not put him in this equation…Just that he went off that day, whacked his family, you flew out of there, you seen told me looked like a cop car coming in as you was leaving...you understand me Charles? You understand?
There was no corroboration and Boney hadn't put Dave "in this equation." Clearly, the "prize" hadn't yet been delivered by Boney and Wilkerson wasn't pleased. Boney stuck to his guns, however, and proclaimed, "I wasn't actually inside the garage during the time I heard those pops."
Wilkerson asked Boney, if all he did was to provide a gun to Camm why he didn't come forward four years earlier. Boney's response was as truthful a response as one could expect to get from the sociopath, "Myron, it didn't make sense for me to even bring to anyone's attention."
That comment made perfect sense. The whole Louisville Metropolitan area knew that there was an unknown "BACKBONE" sweatshirt found at the scene and Mr. Stand Up didn't come forward and explain that his role was simply the innocent dupe who provided a gun.
Wilkerson then brought up the previous polygraph test which Boney had failed. He asked Boney if he could "pass one saying that you didn't pull no trigger?" Boney said that he could. There was no other polygraph given to Boney, however, because the wrong result wouldn't have given them the needed "agreement" between Boney and Camm.
Boney then gave Wilkerson another tutorial on prison life when he told them that he couldn't go back to prison as a "kid killer" because of what would happen to such inmates. His proclamation, "There is no way I would have killed a fucking kid. I didn't want to get this far with you today." Boney gave him the reason why he couldn't tell them the truth and it wasn't touched by Wilkerson. Boney was a coward, pure and simple, and he knew that going to prison as a child killer would be something that he couldn't take.
Before taking a break, Wilkerson left Boney with these comments, "Why in hell out of your own mouth would David Camm protect you for four years? Why would he not expose you? You see what I mean? Why would he not let them look for this black guy that killed this white family? You need to think about that. You've got to give that to me."
After a dinner break for Boney, Wilkerson came out of the chute, "David Camm does have an alibi. Do you understand? He really does and that's gonna be problem. He has an alibi that is not matching up with what you saying. You understand? If your not careful you gonna be a better witness for him…than against him, do you understand that?"
Wilkerson continued to try and get Boney to give him the needed information for a conspiracy, "You either conspired to commit murder or you committed murder…If I were the Prosecutor right now, I just got to be honest with you, and I'm gonna take two people to trial for a triple murder I'm gonna be more comfortable with yours than his."
Boney claimed that he didn't have a motive for killing anyone. Wilkerson, however, then told Boney that it was possible that he was doing a burglary and that "somebody walked in on ya…" Boney then relied on his previous defense that nothing was taken from the house and further, "I'm confident that, that's not one of the scenarios." Once again, he didn't deny that he took anything, but said that it probably wouldn't "catch up" with him.
Boney then provided the mother of all assertions. If there was any doubt in anybody's mind about whether or not Charles Darnell Boney was an absolute liar and sociopath, this exchange of dialogue between him and Wilkerson should dispel any such notion:
Boney: I made sure...cause I stumped...I...I remember tripping over the shoes. And I remember touching em.
Wilkerson: Tripping over what shoes?
Boney: There was shoes in my pathway.
Wilkerson: Okay.
Boney: Uh...brown, the brown shoes. They were in my path...I remember touching those shoes, I remember...when I tripped over those shoes I remember picking em up. I remember looking into the...the backseat and then looking down...so that's when I would have placed em on top.
Can anyone honestly believe any of Boney's incredible story? Did common sense just vanish in Floyd County, Indiana?
Nonetheless, the ISP finally had a story which explained Boney's prints on the Bronco, his DNA and sweatshirt at the scene, the shoes on top of the Bronco, and of course, the fact that he was but merely a victim. It finally had someone incriminating David Camm. It had an eyewitness to the murders.
Boney did add another nugget, however. He said that he believed that Camm had gone into the house in order to get another weapon. Remembering the sequence of events, that meant that Boney went further into the garage, picked up the shoes, looked into the Bronco, and deposited his palm print all after he thought Camm was going to get another gun, because he thought he was probably going to shoot him. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
Also, when asked what kind of vehicle Camm was driving during the second encounter at the Better Way, Boney responded, "It's just a regular car, just...uh...LeSabre type." The only problem with that assertion, however, was that Camm didn't drive a LeSabre type car but rather a white pickup truck.
Wilkerson, who told Boney that his "timeframes are terrible" further told him that, "I think you need to talk to uh...Kessinger again."
11 eyewitnesses were indeed a major hindrance to Boney's most improbable story and it was further compounded by what an exasperated Wilkerson told Boney, "You've given me nothing to put you with him."
As of March 7th, Boney's story according to Kessinger was a "crock of shit," according to Gilbert was a "story of convenience" and according to Wilkerson was "nothing to put you with him" meaning that they didn't have a conspiracy between the two to commit murder. That wouldn't stop another attempt by Kessinger and Gilbert to try and squeeze more out of Boney, however.
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